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in with a safety plan to safeguard russian deposits in cyprus. steve sedgwick is in moscow where he caught up with the finance minister there an hour or so ago. steve? >> they turned to russians once again. there's a loan on the table from russians dating back from 2011 so it's not the exception to it the rule for the cypriots to turn to the russians. the russians themselves are indignant they weren't brought into talks. let's hear what he had to say earlier on about the state of the current talks. >> first meeting very constructive. very honest discussion. we underscored how difficult the situation is and we'll now continue our discussions to find a solution by which we hope we will get some support from russia. >> in terms of that support, are we talking about a change of terms for the current existing 2.5 billion euro loan and an extension of 5 billion loan in addition to that? >> we are talking about things beyond that. >> in what way would this be beyond that? >> we don't know. we don't know yet. we don't have any details. we just continue the discussions and they're waiting for us now t
relations at johns hopkins university. and my guest here with me throughout the show, steve forbes, editor in chief and cnbc contributor judd gregg, former republican senator from new hampshire. welcome, gentlemen. don jensen, let me go to you. how fanciful is this story? this thing keeps popping up. gas program is going to go in, take over the banks, restructure them, save their own money launderers, save their own russian money and take over the cyprus natural gas fields. that is one hell of a deal. i ask you, is that possible, is it plausible? >> it's very plausible. in fact, it's a good scenario. larry, gas prom can buy the whole island. and people always joke that there are so many russian shell companies in cyprus that it's virtually already a part of the russian federation. >> so let me ask you the question du jour or the question du nui tonight, is it odd that russia that bails out the world financial markets? i find this to be utterly incredible. >> well, you have to realize, too, when russian oil garbages and organized crime figures send their money abroad, they like a nice, reli
has been struck for a loan. i think we have steve on the phone from moscow. stay there for one second. steve, you just left this meeting where we are potentially looking for cyprus to maybe get some kind of deal here from the russians to help solve their debt problem. sounds like they are coming away empty handed. >> absolutely. there are more talks ongoing. i caught a couple of words with him as he was walking out. as you rightly quoted he said talks were constructive. they were ongoing. he told me he was on his way to a different location and that there would be more talks ongoing that have been constructive and then i asked him very specifically about the loan agreement that had been agreed between russia and cyprus in 2011, that's a 2.5 billion euro loan, 4 1/2 year loan. there were question marks in the press about whether this would be a loan which would be extended in terms of term and interest rates lessened. he said to me in response to my question about that loan we are looking beyond that. i'm not sure if we're looking at an extension of loan. people talked about a 5 billio
had to be named steve to be on the panel today for the most part. steven water from russell investments, steve sacks. steve liesman is with us. and then there's that guy santelli who joins us daily as well. dr. wood, are we making too much of this? over the weekend we were all convinced that the markets were going to be slammed today. they were in asia overnight. then things allayed. what happened? >> i think the market's assessing the size versus what it represents. what we have in cyprus right now is the rule of law being brought into question. can rules about depository insurance change over the course of a weekend? i think the size of cyprus right now, what it represents directly is not a threat. we're assessing. but if this is contained in some broader bailout oriented scheme, i think it could be something weathered by the markets. that said, the rule of law being brought into question is not a good thing. >> steve sacks, are you seeing a reaction in some of the european etfs out there? or are you seeing the same kind of money mentality going into exchange traded funds?
, obviously three developing stories and we're going to cue you in on all of them right now. the fed, steve liesman is in washington. russia's financial overtures toward cyprus. steve is live in moscow and then there's cyprus and the impact there on the rest of europe and the globe. michelle caruso-cabrera has made the trek to that small island nation that is right now ground zero for europe's financial problems. michelle? >> reporter: hi there, tyler. the latest is the president says he's going to meet with parliament tomorrow morning. there's still no plan here. in fact, you heard about plan a which was to tax deposits. now we have heard that plan b has been rejected by the troika as well. cyprus government said to the troika, their european partners who they want them to lend money to, they said to them, listen, instead of taxing deposits why don't we do this instead. we have a pension fund, we'll raid it, take the cash, turn it into bond and we'll pay it back over time. the troika said that doesn't do anything for you. you still have liabilities. then they said we're also going it try t
street cases that might have prosecutorial merit. in december 2011, steve kroft reported on two such cases. we begin with a woman named eileen foster, a former senior executive at countrywide financial, one of the epicenters of the crisis. >> do you believe that there are people at countrywide who belong behind bars? >> yes. >> do you want to give me their names? >> no. >> would you give their names to a grand jury if you were asked? >> yes. >> but eileen foster has never been asked, and never spoken to the justice department, even though she was countrywide's executive vice president in charge of fraud investigations. at the height of the housing bubble, countrywide financial was the largest mortgage lender in the country, and the loans it made were among the worst, a third ending up in foreclosure or default, many because of mortgage fraud. it was foster's job to monitor and investigate allegations of fraud against countrywide employees and make sure they were reported to the board of directors and the treasury department. >> how much fraud was there at countrywide? >> from wh
bernanke speaking today. our steve liesman says you might want to listen to what another person from the fed is saying. steve, what's that all about? >> sue, i want to talk in just a second about new york fed president bill dudley, talk more directly about monetary policy. first a word on fed chairman ben bernanke. he's speaking in london with mevvin king, outgoing head of the monetary policy committee there. he broadly supported all the global monetary policy easing for central banks around the world, say k effectively it was not currency. here's what he said. >> because stronger growth in each economy -- these policies are not -- rather they are positive sum enrich thiy neighbr actions. >> what he's saying is what japan is doing is okay. new york fed president bill dudley, he had some very strong words for critics of the federal reserve who say that the fed is potentially going to be losing money through its current quantitative easing policy. let's give a listen to his comments today at the new york economic club. >> the fed is a central bank, not an asset management company. our
a news conference and steve liesman will join us with the exclusive findings of the cnbc fed survey, coming up at the top of the next hour. the other big global market this morning continues to be cyprus. the parliament there is expected to reject the attacks on bank deposits. the decision would effect hely block a bailout and push the island nation closer to a debt default and banking collapse. it is possible the vote today won't happen if leaders are sure it will be rejected. as for the global markets this morning, the major equity indexes closing lower yesterday, in large part because of fears about that cyprus bailout plan. and it's on track to post its best numbers of the year. >> the biggest corporate headline this morning is a weird one. lululemon is pulling shipments of some women's yoga pants from its stores. the athletic clothing store says the move is going to hurt its bottom line. they had an unacceptable level of sheerness, so you could see through them a little bit too much. that's the problem. the decision to pull the pants will be lead to go a shortage of its black w
. steve sedgwick is there and asked a question of the two leaders. >> are we proving time and time again in europe that we're not understanding the russian national interest over issues such as cyprus, over issues such as trade in wto, energy and elsewhere? >> i believe i understand the position of russia. i believe why russia has that position, but we have another perception and reality. the question is, is this a real obstacle for achieving progress? for instance, we have discussed today here for trade, investment, energy to mobility. i don't think it is. >> and michelle caruso cabrera will join us with more in the next hour. >> customers, by the way, are finally going to be able to get their hands on the blb 10 today. jackie deangelis has more on this debut. jackie, i know joe is a skeptic now that he's a new i tone -- >> my life is so enriched. >> but i am still completely reliant on this thing. this one doesn't even have the real keyboard, right? >> right. and you make a really good point. a lot of people are still relying on the blackberry. it does go on sale at at&t here today. i
. steve sedgwick is calling in on the line from moscow. steve, russia is happy to stand pat while cyprus try toes come up with a solution. >> what we're going to get is an announcement from the european commission and the russian federation. this is looking at a whole host of longer term issue between the european union and is russia. the relationship needs a reboost after disagreements over syria, over trade, over the wto, over human rights and now, of course, most aggressively of cyprus, as well. what i'm fascinated to see -- and i'm in the lockdown, as well, i mention inside the reception house of the russian federation, i'm in a lockdown ahead of that press conference between mr. barroso and mr. medvedev. i want to see how that reboot looks. is it a reboot in name only or is it meaningful? they would prove that it's meaningful by including a solution to the cyprus crisis, including not only the troika, but the russian federation. that's is where mr. medvedev saying russian interests should have been thought about. mr. barroso saying no of the on governments were talked about friday i
" word, recession. steve liesman has more details on that. hi, steve. >> thanks very much, sue. we're here with the growth forecast from our 54 respondents. first i'll show you what the gdp -- i guess we're going to do the recession here first. you can see back in september 2011, when we're dealing with debt ceiling, the probability of recession by this group, 36%, fell to a low of 19% around the winter of 2012. remember when everything was being looking good, it dipped down again. the probability of recession went up again. now it's fallen again for the second straight month. 2011, 17.6%. not quite off the charts because we still have room here but it's the lowest that we've seen since we began asking this question. i don't know if we have the growth forecast chart here, guys, if we can go back to that. here are the actuals. year over year gdp, 2.6, 1.8, lackluster and picking up to a lackluster not great 2.6%. i want to share with you some views of the economy from our 54 respo respondents. firming housing prices are a game changer. there is something much more self-feeding about
signs and perhaps some comments on what's going on in europe, too. steve describes what is on top of the agenda today. clients are always learning more to make their money do more. (ann) to help me plan my next move, i take scottrade's free, in-branch seminars... plus, their live webinars. i use daily market commentary to improve my strategy. and my local scottrade office guides my learning every step of the way. because they know i don't trade like everybody. i trade like me. i'm with scottrade. (announcer) scottrade... ranked "highest in customer loyalty for brokerage and investment companies." ♪ your finances can't manage themselves, but that doesn't mean they won't try. bring all your finances together with the help of the one person who can, a certified financial planner professional. cfp -- let's make a plan. >> fed chairman ben bernanke will be speaking later. >> have we really learned our lessons from the crisis? joining us now to talk about that more, steve leisman. >> it is argued that the world is not really in the middle of a currency war. and he distinguished betwee
york stock exchange. steve liesman is at the bernanke conference in the room there. is that it? that's all the people we could bring in here? mark, you've been sitting here with us. what did you make of what you heard today and the market response? >> i thought narcotmarket respos very good, bill. and i commend the committee. i think they're doing a phenomenal job at this point in time, really. investor sentiment is rising. as long as unemployment remains above 6.5%, i think the fed will do everything to provide accommodative policy. their mandate is to get the unemployment rate below 6.5%, and i think investors, overall, at least my clients and i sense that of other clients, they're feeling really good about the risk assets right now, versus, you know, what might be going on in the economy. >> right. but i guess, kenny palkari, you've been watching the story from the floor there. what kind of flow did you see as bernanke was talking? is there any feeling that anything changes for the foreseeable future? >> no, there is not. and you know, we've actually been talking about this for a
there a little bit about cyprus. does it matter, do we care or not? will we get a deal? checking it out. steve sedgwick in moscow earlier today. russia's been a big player in this drama but our international correspondent, chief international correspondent michelle caruso-cabrera is in cyprus for us now. michelle? >> reporter: tyler, the situation in cyprus is incredibly unclear and increasingly chaotic. the parliament of this country was supposed to vote ten hours ago to pass a law that would allow them to restructure the banks. we're still waiting. it's unclear if they are going to vote today at all. at the same time we're getting reports that maybe the european union is going to demand even more from this country. hours ago we were told by the leader -- the head of the leading party that they were extremely close to a deal and yet we still wait. the same time it's growing increasingly chaotic in this country's economy because the banks are still closed. they have been closed for seven days now. it looks like they will be closed for at least ten days. that means people running businesses can
's quarterly results and guidance perhaps a little bit disappointing. let's get back to our guest host steve romack for the last words. you like aon. it's one of the larger positions. >> only 20% comes from the u.s. of the revenue -- is that what you said? >> 20% of the companies that we hold. 20% are domiciled in the u.s. and 50% come from overseas and a lot of the things we're finding lately have been a special situation. we were long renault and short nissan because we were able to create the stub at a negative $5 billion euro valuation with the company that has great balance sheet and cash flowing positive and we're long vodafone and short verizon because vodafone owns 45% of verizon wireless and verizon owns 55%. we were creating the stub at a pretty inexpensive price. >> anything else that you like? >> you don't like the consumer. >> we're cautious. we're scared of how the government keeps putting money in people's market. the government trumped 2.4 million jobs and they didn't talk about the 1.9 million people on food stamps and snap program. so we're just very, very cautious. >> you'
. it was a growth stock. it missed the quarter. quarters matter and andy grove, they went toe to toe with steve jobs in walter eisen's book, but the quarterly increment, and it is a fair way to judge everybody. >> best book ever. >> apple's failed that test of the quarterly report. >> all right. coming up, is a yoga pants crisis coming? lululemon recalling pants that are too sheer. picture this. now there could be a shortage in the price of yogawear, what might that mean for the stock? we'll talk about that and tight, sheer, yoga pants, melissa. >> lulugetton. . you ready? we wanna be our brother's keeper. what's number two we wanna do? bring it up to 90 decatherms. how bout ya, joe? let's go ahead and bring it online. attention on site, attention on site. now starting unit nine. some of the world's cleanest gas turbines are now powering some of america's biggest cities. siemens. answers. falling. falling. it is recalling some of its yoga pants because of their sheerness. the move affects 17% of the bottoms it has in stock and lululemon is offering full refunds to customers. one analyst points out t
of a bounce, i don't see much selling off. >> all right. dead money. steve, what about you? you worry about this sales stumble? >> bill, i really do. i will tell you, the way oracle talked about its sales force, i don't think that those folks today are playing hooky from work and watching the ncaa tournament. i think they're making a lot of calls today. >> you think? >> but i don't know that it's just oracle-specific. i think it might be broader and more about technology capex spending. if you look about a month ago, we saw the purer cloud plays, and oracle is struggling right now in the cloud, but the purer cloud plays, companies like rack space, they dipped down about a month ago. now we're seeing the bigger, older tech giants like oracle, like cisco, for instance, start to similarly trail off. i think it is a sign that the global economy is weak, and companies, while they are very profitable, they are not reinvesting those profits into capex spending, whether it be in technology or elsewhere. so i think it's troubling for technology as a whole. >> wait a minute, are you guys agreeing wit
that apple is at risk of having a dusty product? >> well, i think you have to separate two things. steve jobs only gave you one product and he told you you'd like it and you did. tod today, unfortunately, a lot of consumers may want a bigger phone and a new phone and apple is not giving you the breadth and the product line that a lot of us would like. i don't know if you call that dusty or not, but what i would say is you don't have a lot of choice. when the iphone first came out it was the only thing out there that could do what it did. today, i would argue samsung makes a better phone and the good thing about an cell they have a great ecosystem in i tunes. i have over 1,000 songs and books and movies in there so that kind of keeps me locked in so i'm probably not going to be able to move to a samsung phone, but in emerging market countries where you're buying your first phone, don't forget, apple's total share of the handset business is 8%. so the other 92% that have other phones, you know, they may move to samsung and apple may lose out on those future sales and that's -- whether it's a du
experts polls for the latest cnbc federal reserve survey seems to think. senior economics reporter steve liesman is breaking it all down for us. steve, what have you got? >> interesting results from our cnbc fed survey. 54 economists, fund managers, and analysts chiming in with their responses to our questions. first thing we want to show you their response on expected quantitative easing. this was their response in our january survey. looking for $680 billion of qe this year. now $17 billion. they added like another month. they're still below the pace of the fed. the fed buying at $85 billion. but they also lengthened out the timeline of the federal reserve, as you'll see in the next chart here. this is when they thought they were going to stop qe, in november of 2013. that was in our january survey. and now, all the way over here, they've added about six months that they think qe will be going on for. however, they do believe the fed will taper those purchases. that tapering, originally, we thought, was going to start in december of 2013. and now they've moved that ahead again. now it'
in cyprus. a place where a lot of powerful russians have an awful lot of money. steve sedgwick is live in moscow reporting on possible russian solutions for us. good evening, steve. >> reporter: yeah, a very good evening to you. well, look, i've just been to a meeting this morning between the european commission president, barroso, and the prime minister of russia, mr. medvedev. and despite the very fine words on the surface, it is very clear the russians are very upset with the europeans. as you mentioned, sue, a huge amount of interest the russians have down in cyprus as well. and they're really upset they weren't included in the negotiations for some form of bailout package initially. they've said the europeans have behaved like a bully in a china shop. they've also said they've done everything wrong. and this is the best one i thought. they're accusing them of absolutely misappropriating assets akin to something that happened in the soviet era. this is the russians telling the europeans they're doing something completely wrong on property rights. quite extraordinary. the russians h
. kelly, back to you. >> steve, thanks very much for that. any deal with russia may be premature certainly isn't going to calm things in cyprus. this morning, the european central bank in a statement has said in order to continue its emergency liquidity systems past monday the 25th, cyprus has to have a bailout in place. any prospect of that? >> well, that adds a sense of urgency to the situation. timing is really crucial here. and now with this ultimatum from the ecb, the cypriot banks are hoping that a deal can be found as soon as possible. because what they've been relying on over the last couple of days and weeks is that eoa assistance from the ecb. that, kelly, is the main reason why they have been able to stay solve solvent. but i want to come back to a point that steve brought up this morning. but would one bailout deal even be enough? 5.8 billion euros don't seem enough when the banks do reopen next tuesday and we're likely going to see big depositit outflows. one economist i talked to this morning said to me, what's really likely at this point is that we're going to see a second b
of concerns. >> let's also bring in steve leaseman and rick santelli for more reaction. why don't you start off with your views with what you're hearing from people there when you're looking attic movements. what really jumps out to you? >> i'll tell you what, and i am totally serious about this. when i walked in, this is a little earlier than our regular time. people are walking around, taking care of issues from friday. people have come up and said i understand this is a little island with a gdp that's in fan tess mal. i'll tell you what, i'm kind of shocked that it made that jump. i understand that at a time where computerization allows every government on the planet to track and have say complete financial audit trail of everything anybody has, whether it's in this country, 401(k), deferred retirement account. there's a rule of law issue here that's not only going to bug people in cyprus but it's going to bug everybody around the globe. that last comment you played is ridiculous, we'll never do it again. it is absolutely beyond belief. but this really is a shot across for anybody who ha
would lose badly. these creative geniuses make a big difference. we talk about the return of steve jobs, apple or what howard schultz could do with starbucks. absolutely, this guy has to be a part of equation if the shareholders and customers are going to come out on top. >> but if shareholders can get more from blackstone or more from carl icahn and lose michael dell if the process, maybe they don't care what happens next. >> that would be a shame. that's not for institution building. you take a look at -- sometimes we have some failures and i hate to say this in public markets, the pressing scrutiny is hard for some chief executives to reposition their firms the way we saw cesar had to do this. the short-term market fluctuations, they get a chance to get past speculators. this is not wild guesswork. dell has done this five, six times. nobody can be better battle tested and brilliant steve jobs only did it once. >> did michael dell make a mistake in agreeing as part of his taking private transactions to vote his shares however the other shareholders want? so that he has effectively los
, the big part of the story is russia. will russia rescue cyrus and their own tax laundering haven. steve is in moscow. >> reporter: yes they came to russia looking for financial support for their country after they brokered a deal in the terms of the european union. the russians have a lot of skin in the game, a huge amount of money flows between the two countries and cyprus has become an off shore type bank for them. in the interest of the russians to get a deal. but i spoke earlier to the finance minister of cyprus about the prospects of a deal. in terms of the support are we talking about a change of items for the current -- change of terms for the 2.5 billion euro loan and more in addition to that? >> no we are talking about it in terms beyond that. >> what terms would those be? >> we don't know yet, we don't know yet. we don't have any deals and we are continuing the discussions and they are waiting for us for discussions in another place. >> how long will the discussions take? >> we will be here until we get some agreement. it appears that late in the day, larry, we have not got a
on february 6th steve in florida called for input on black rock kelso capital, bkcc for all you home gamers. i didn't know it and introduced digging, black rock kelso invests in what are known as middle-market businesses, companies with revenues between $50 and $500 million. the stock yields a 10.4% yield which seems like a red flag, but as you know we find sky high yields a worry, but this is a investment company that trades with the elevated payouts. at the same time, we are a private equity player like black stone, more upside and more predictability. next up brett was one of my amertus with one of the largest networks of assisted living, retirement and alzheimer communities in north america. they care for seniors who can't stay home alone anymore but not in need of nursing care chchlt is a stress full-time for everyone involved. the company on some 190 communities leases now is 141, about 30,000 units. i think amertus is in the baby boom for my generation. did you get an excellent entry point here? let's check your tweets send to @jimcramer on twitter. visited twitter yesterday and had a t
that the cyprus crisis will not be fixed any time soon and will come with serious consequences. steve sedgwick is standing by with the latest from there. but first our own michelle crew c caruso-cabrera is live in cyprus. >> reporter: the situation here grows increasingly desperate. they're down to the wire. cyprus government has to make a decision about what they're going to do. look at the lines that have started to form at nearly every atm of the bank here in cyprus, this liky is considered one of the weakest. they're still able to get money out of the atms in cyprus though banks have been closed all week and won't reopen until tuesday at the earliest. people in line are quite frightened because they know that this is the weakest bank and there had been rumors about it. it is likely to be part of any consolidation effort is that ultimately is what happened. that's every single day likely to be the case. listen to what one man said. he's been taking out money every single day. >> i just took $1,000. i've been taking $1,000 every day. personally i'm taking this money and cash with me to the u
to get this medicare, this health insurance -- there was a big article by steve bril on cover of "time" magazine. we've got to crack down on the nps'. they're making too much money. >> well, my answer is, some might be making a lot of money. but at nps, we characterize the value and this is what we're offering. and this is why, despite our price, the payers are understanding the value of gatex and reimbursing -- >>y wert take care of these people and try to get them normal lives or we wreck their lives. >> exactly right. not only they will cost the system but not be productive for society either. >> why should they be doomed if you have something for them? >> exactly. and something that works. >> okay, dr. nader, thank you so much. that's francois nader, president and ceo of nps pharmaceuticals up huge today. i don't think it's done. two drugs that are big. "mad money" is back after the break. ♪ ♪ i don't want any trouble. i don't want any trouble either. ♪ [ engine turns over ] you know you forgot to take your mask off, right? [ siren wailing in distance ] ♪ [ male announcer ]
's a conservative institute on the campus. >> i want to read mark simone my pal steve forbes tweets capitalism is the most moral system because it respects man's rights. now stanford may not agree with that but do i. >> you're being a little out dated. we're in the obama economy. a college student doesn't need to study capitalism, moves into his parents house, lives there until he's 30. is on their health care plan. where do you find a professor to teach the joys of capitalism. >> there has to be somebody out there. >> they are there but they are a vanishing minority. >> capitalism is freedom. i appeal to your higher spirits. there must be an agreement with us some place. capitalism is about freedom. live, liberty and pursuit of happiness is done best through the free market capitalist system. >> i agree with you, larry. i don't know what stanford is doing. obviously they can do what they want because they are a private university and we have freedom of speech but i certainly would encourage the teaching of capitalism on campus. but i think you're all on a different planet. liberals are very s
of the world. steve liesman on his way soon to westchester county. robert, who knows where he's going. what it might mean for russia's rich. >> nondisclosed location. >> tyler, i'm looking at the markets and the commentary coming in to my e-mail. i think knee-jerk contagion is now becoming contagion as some investors doubt that what's going on in cyprus is really raising concerns about the positive insurance worldwide. citi group in a report that just came out, contagion risks are over rated in our view. the risk of bank runs in other euro area countries has clearly risen but the unique features of the cypriot situation should limit the read through to other cases in the euro area. in case you didn't know this, issuing a strong statement the reassure american depositors. while the situation in cyprus is a real concern for the depositors in cypriot's banks, depositors in the u.s. banks are insured. the cyprus debacle is the sort of thing that has kept the fed on age and as gresive stance on monetary policy. fed would increase by 85 billion in additional mortgages because it's already on edge
're idiots if you don't get that. >> welcome to 60 minutes on cnbc. i'm steve kroft. in this edition, we look at the world of big deals on wall street and in las vegas and examine the impact of high-speed computers in both places. we begin with perhaps the most famous investor of them all, warren buffett. his fame extends far beyond wall street, his oldest son, howard, not so much. and yet he's the person warren buffett wants to succeed him as chairman of berkshire hathaway, the mega holding company that buffett built. for most of his adult life, howard has been a corn and soybean farmer in nebraska and illinois. and as lesley stahl first reported in december of 2011, howard doesn't live the high life, and he loves getting down in the dirt. >> this is the man who'll become the next chairman of the company-acquiring, investment-picking, moneymaking machine berkshire hathaway if warren buffett has his way. howard is a farmer who would rather dig up the ground and drive big machines than sit in a boardroom. were you stunned? were you surprised? >> i was surprised. >> but no sign that he's about
the keyboard. >> i'll tell you what's ironic, when i went to my college reunion. steve ballmer was using a nokia. why? microsoft -- >> exactly. he said look at this. oh, my god, i've never seen one of those. >> because nobody has one. >> if he'd pulled out a blackberry, it would be game, set, match, right? everything is riding on this blackberry thing at this point given what the stock has done. if there's anything less than a blockbuster, what happens to the stock? >> i think that -- yes. i think we're in the first 48 hours thing and we'll will have one of those things and if it's a dud, but the press reports have been pretty good about it, and i think there are people who are still wedded to the keyboard. i think it's okay. >> i think it depends on how you're valuing the stock. there are some analysts throughout in their models they assigned nothing in the device part of the business. >> that was that great -- the sum of the parts analysis and unfortunately the parts are together right now. so the only time we'll see that value is if parts are actually apart. >> a lot of breakup analys
in the biggest worry to me is the effect of this whole union of the think banking commit pep steve liesman was talking about it this morning and i think he's right. there will be people slowly moving deposits out of the higher risk countries and maybe into the u.s. and the uk, as well. here's what to look for. april 4th and that's the ecb meeting. watch what mario draghi has to say about that and that he'll make liquidity more available to banks. remember those ltros that they did about a year ago. don't be surprised that they dragged those things out again and everybody was talking about the weak top line growth. there is the company that has to be the envy for everybody looking for top line growth. their projected sales for 2014 and 10% to 12% increase and take out all of the new stores and same-store sales growth, 4% to 6% and those are really good numbers and that stock's up today sitting at a six-month high and i want to see a big welcome to people on the floor and we have ice traders on the floor and intercontinental exchange and they have 40 new traders in the blue room and they'll
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